This interview with Archbishop Desmond Tutu took place as part of a journey to South Africa in June of 2013 called the Sawubona Project. Sixteen juniors from the Mount Madonna School "Values in World Thought" program particiapted as part of a year long project. In addition to this interview, the juniors visited with other schools and students their age, brought various donations to organizations helping children and their families, and even ventured into the African savanna.